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Part of me want's to...I struggle with this too. Part of me want's to embrace these alternative holistic therapies, but my skepticism won't let me enjoy it. I covered my thoughts on this in <a href="http://www.spiritualatheist.co.uk/2010/07/does-skepticism-take-fun-out-of-life.html" rel="nofollow">an post about tai chi and skepticism</a> i wrote on my blog a few days ago.<br />I sometimes wonder if skepticism is both a blessing and a curse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-89843616951957211642008-07-17T20:18:00.000+01:002008-07-17T20:18:00.000+01:00Hi Neo Con. I've been tempted. Oh, so many times...Hi Neo Con. I've been tempted. Oh, so many times ;)jamonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18272740536152837140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-49691400407853438862008-07-17T19:42:00.000+01:002008-07-17T19:42:00.000+01:00*maybe... sometimes you just do "what you can"... ...*<BR/>maybe... sometimes you just do <I><B>"what you can"</B></I>... not... <A HREF="http://hallsofmacadamia.blogspot.com/2008/07/from-sometimes-cigar.html" REL="nofollow"><I><B>"what you should"</B></I></A>.<BR/><BR/>*Neo Conservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15899199108142365216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-32912821582602194482008-07-15T14:07:00.000+01:002008-07-15T14:07:00.000+01:00It depends Murph. An awful lot of snake oil has b...It depends Murph. An awful lot of snake oil has been flogged in the name of "mental health", however make no mistake - "mental illness" exists.<BR/><BR/><I>Why</I> it exists is a different matter entirely.<BR/><BR/>As ever, the problem's with the language. Poor "mental" health is rarely just "mental". People don't get depressed for no reason any more than they become 'psychotic'. Which is why this 'holism' notion makes sense.<BR/><BR/>I've much sympathy for the anti-psychiaty view, as it's where I'm most comfortable, however pragmatism and experience has moved me away from it somewhat. Though I'm still attached with elastic chord ;)jamonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18272740536152837140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-65359267007827133382008-07-15T01:41:00.000+01:002008-07-15T01:41:00.000+01:00The concepts of "mental health" and "spirit" have ...The concepts of "mental health" and "spirit" have more in common than you might realize. They're both equally as non-existent. The real difference is the idea of having spirit or a spirit has been around for thousands of years, whereas the idea of having mental health is a relatively Johnny-come-lately idea invented to sell snake oil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-91858045900152794832008-07-12T16:15:00.000+01:002008-07-12T16:15:00.000+01:00You're right of course and make a good analogy.I d...You're right of course and make a good analogy.<BR/><BR/>I do wonder however, how ethical it is to market these things as non-placebo to those who buy in to them hook line and sinker - as opposed to the wise who suspend disbelief for a while?jamonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18272740536152837140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-81735685545386321142008-07-12T13:21:00.000+01:002008-07-12T13:21:00.000+01:00I could be wrong but is not Holistic therapy, like...I could be wrong but is not Holistic therapy, like watching a movie. If we willingly enter a suspension of belief, we find ourselves entertained, it does not matter if has ultra special effects in a sci-fi flick or the salt of the earth, art movie. When we feel cheated is when we assume from the movie trailer, and the film reviews that a movie is more wonderful than it actually is. I realize, health is more important than entertainment, but marketing is quite ruthless like that. A dream to sell something for more than what it is. Thanks for visiting and leaving a comment.Thought Roomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520315758863576077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-9116621675448133502008-07-12T07:43:00.000+01:002008-07-12T07:43:00.000+01:00There's nothing wrong at all with relaxation being...There's nothing wrong at all with relaxation being the end product - it's the means used to achieve it that irk me.<BR/><BR/>If these 'therapists' marketed themselves as purveyors of theatrical relaxation, then I'd be all for it.<BR/><BR/>They don't, though.jamonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18272740536152837140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8150670299444200192.post-81658890097895552292008-07-12T03:13:00.000+01:002008-07-12T03:13:00.000+01:00I think the common component of these alternative ...I think the common component of these alternative "therapies" is relaxation of the body and or mind, whether it be actually massaging of body parts or any particular service (waving of crystals, palm reading, sage burning, gah, even colonics!) The patient wants to receive the benefit, they are open to it; therefore they mesmerize themselves into a heightened state of relaxation. Relaxation as an end product isn't a bad thing necessarily, I think it's the nefarious practitioners that sell it as something more than it is that unfair, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com